the one way that it makes sense if you think of christie as running for office. he's running for 2016 bob and that he somehow believes there is still a basis for running against obama care in 2016. >> this is what i mean by the gop being in denial. they are captive of the ultra-conservatives, the right wing in their party. so they think politically and then they end up in opposition to what's happening in the nation. not just in terms of voting and election. i mean, they're on the wrong side of history in some of these issues. >> so christie is up against that. new jersey is not a backward retrograde state. >> neither is louisiana or mississippi. having lived in both, i'm just saying. >> i am not going to dump on your state or your home state of louisiana. but mississippi has had some problems going back a number of decades. but the republicans are never going to make any headway politically and they're never going to make headway socially/legislatively if they remain in denial about where the people are on some of these big issues. >> i want to ask you about thi